Emily and her coaches have a day out!

Lordraglan274 · 18 Apr 2018

Having spent some time locating some second hand coaches to go with my re-worked Emily, the first decent day of the year had me out giving them a run.
I was requested to let everyone see her on the Wants Thread, so here is a very short clip

Lordraglan274 · 18 Apr 2018

The carriage axles need some oil!!!!!

playmofire · 18 Apr 2018

A short clip but a good one. Nice to see the loco and coaches united.

Paul M · 18 Apr 2018

That looks great. So effortlessly smooth. Looks like a smashing line altogether

Rhinochugger · 20 Apr 2018

Bill Barnwell · 22 Apr 2018

Very good, looks great, Bill

Fred2179G · 7 Sep 2018

That does look great, but I'm a bit confused about the green coaches. [Sorry for resurrecting an older thread, but I just bought my Emily and conversion kit.]

I was told about the green Emily coaches, which apparently were an invention of the Thomas TV show. The Stirling Single in revenue service would have pulled GNR or Midland stock - none of which was green. (?)
So the green coaches are fine for an Emily with Thomas face, I guess, but if you are going to de-Thomas the engine and make it more like the Single, then why the green coaches?

BakerJohn · 8 Sep 2018

Because Rule 8? lol
I'm glad you commented though, Fred. Id never seen this before. Its a nice little video!!

Greg Elmassian · 8 Sep 2018

dunnyrail · 8 Sep 2018

Teak for my money too though it is a notoriously tricky livery to get right requiring more tha one painting process. But I expect it would be a bit easier than in smaller scales where I have seen all the methods described. But certainly that Emily looks very gracious when running, enjoy seeing her wherever she appears.

Fred2179G · 8 Sep 2018

Greg, I don't know where you found those photos (well, one of them I do) but the first one is a relatively modern UK express, the second is an OO/HO model (nice coaches though) and maybe the third is a coach that the Single might have seen in its lifetime. Here's another one, from the same source:

Even more likely, a real GNR coach:

The interesting characteristic of these coaches is the rolled roof edge.

Fred2179G · 8 Sep 2018

dunnyrail said:
Teak for my money too though it is a notoriously tricky livery to get right requiring more tha one painting process. But I expect it would be a bit easier than in smaller scales where I have seen all the methods described. But certainly that Emily looks very gracious when running, enjoy seeing her wherever she appears.

The technique for adding fake wood grain is called "scumble" and there are lots of YouTube videos showing us how to do it. Many restored 'teak' coaches are actually Thompson's steel coaches with fake teak - scumbled paint.

Bill Barnwell · 9 Sep 2018

Well not one to count rivets and although appeartanly not historically correct and being I know very little about English trains, I think the green is very attractive and what a beautiful engine

Rhinochugger · 9 Sep 2018

Fred2179G said:
The technique for adding fake wood grain is called "scumble" and there are lots of YouTube videos showing us how to do it. Many restored 'teak' coaches are actually Thompson's steel coaches with fake teak - scumbled paint.

Although a process that requires a bit of practice, especially for graining to achieve the appearance of timber rather than just drag painting, I'll bet it's far harder to achieve in a model - probably a very good argument for keeping the coaches in green

Rhinochugger · 9 Sep 2018

Fred2179G said:
That does look great, but I'm a bit confused about the green coaches. [Sorry for resurrecting an older thread, but I just bought my Emily and conversion kit.]

I was told about the green Emily coaches, which apparently were an invention of the Thomas TV show. The Stirling Single in revenue service would have pulled GNR or Midland stock - none of which was green. (?)
So the green coaches are fine for an Emily with Thomas face, I guess, but if you are going to de-Thomas the engine and make it more like the Single, then why the green coaches?

Research is slightly hampered by the fact that period photos of the Stirling Single in service are in black and white

Bill Barnwell · 9 Sep 2018

Rhinochugger said:
Although a process that requires a bit of practice, especially for graining to achieve the appearance of timber rather than just drag painting, I'll bet it's far harder to achieve in a model - probably a very good argument for keeping the coaches in green

Well I like the green but if you want to make it look like wood it's pretty easy I did a battery holder and painted it to look like a steamer trunk, came out pretty good. Maybe a little wood like and old woody station wagon

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Bill Barnwell · 9 Sep 2018

Would really like someone to explain the really unusual design engine, quite different, The 1 large driver is something too behold

Paul M · 9 Sep 2018

Rhinochugger said:
Research is slightly hampered by the fact that period photos of the Stirling Single in service are in black and white

In a discussion at my local club, it seems that, although the railway companies had official colour schemes, these were not always adhered to, and of course colours change with age and the weather and indeed different manufacturing batches, all goes to makes it difficult to get a correct answer. As most photographic evidence of the steam age is black and white, so perhaps the real answer to the question "what colour?" - is black and white (or rather shades of grey)?

PhilP · 9 Sep 2018

Rhinochugger said:
Research is slightly hampered by the fact that period photos of the Stirling Single in service are in black and white

"Wonderful plummage, the Striling Single!"

Bill Barnwell said:
Would really like someone to explain the really unusual design engine, quite different, The 1 large driver is something too behold

I tell people the designer worked on paddle steamers, mainly..

GNR Stirling 4-2-2 - Wikipedia

Rhinochugger · 9 Sep 2018

Bill Barnwell said:
Would really like someone to explain the really unusual design engine, quite different, The 1 large driver is something too behold

There were one or two of this design in the early years - locos with the large driving wheels were sometimes referred to as 'spinners'.

As well as the GN Stirling single, I am aware that the Midland Railway had a single design, as did the Caledonian Railway.

We also need to remember the basic differences in locomotive design and development in the UK vs USA. In the UK, each railway company would have its Chief Mechanical Engineer who was responsible for the design of locomotives, and while they might 'borrow' design concepts, the locos would be individual to each railway company.

In the USA, locomotives were designed and built by independent companies, often with the result that locos would be 'catalogue' locos, with the same design, or adapted design, being used by different railroads.

So, the three spinners would have been designed by three different engineers.

I think the GW broad gauge may have had something similar in concept

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